[Mageia-dev] Problem with Totem packages?

Wolfgang Bornath molch.b at googlemail.com
Wed Nov 21 15:50:31 CET 2012

2012/11/21 Olav Vitters <olav at vitters.nl>:
> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 02:32:32PM +0100, Pierre Jarillon wrote:
>> Le mercredi 21 novembre 2012 13:29:26, Olav Vitters a écrit :
>> > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 02:11:40AM +0100, Pierre Jarillon wrote:
>> > > If we want a full usable distro out the box, VLC must be the default
>> > > choice for all videos and then Totem could be removed.
>> >
>> > Which desktop are you using? VLC is IMO terrible, but I don't see why
>> > application defaults should be the same across desktops. Totem under
>> > anything other than GNOME: who cares? Maybe for XFCE VLC is a better fit
>> > or something.
>> VLC works with any destop and any OS.
>> Most of people coming from Windows already use VLC.
>> LibreOffice, Firefox, Thunderbird and VLC are the most universal applications.
>> They allow easy migrations from Microsoft.
>> However, I prefer Konqueror and kmail in a KDE environment.
> You really like VLC :)
> If there is no KDE mediaplayer, then maybe file a bug. Totem in KDE is
> not the best match.

Neither is dragon player nor is totem a good thing in Gnome.

Both application suffer from the same cause: as soon as we enter the
video section we also become victims of the free/non-free/tainted
issue. Result: totem as well as dragon player as provided by the free
DVD are not able to play any kind of video, unless you install certain
plugins. Now the direct issue is, how both applications deal with
this. None of both is able to list all necessary plugins to play the
wanted video - it's always the dance "a plugin is missing!" - "Which
plugin?" then a forum helper tells you about one plugin, you install
it, restart totem and - Bang! - it kills you with another "A plugin is
missing!". Do that 3 times and maybe it works for this one video,
coming back with the next video format. Same with dragon player.

It's an upstream issue all right, but why is it not possible to
include a function which lists ALL needed plugins, so you can install
all of them? Or even better, a meta-package for those who want it all,
which installs all available plugins for video play? I understand the
reasons why they can not be installed automatically, but it would be a
great step forward if all needed plugins can be installed in ONE step.

Apart from that and not judging by look&feel, vlc really is the best
when it comes to playing media.


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