[Mageia-dev] Problem with Totem packages?

Robert Fox list at foxconsult.net
Wed Nov 21 16:26:13 CET 2012

On Mi, 2012-11-21 at 15:50 +0100, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
> 2012/11/21 Olav Vitters <olav at vitters.nl>:
> > On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 02:32:32PM +0100, Pierre Jarillon wrote:
> >> Le mercredi 21 novembre 2012 13:29:26, Olav Vitters a écrit :
> >> > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 02:11:40AM +0100, Pierre Jarillon wrote:
> >> > > If we want a full usable distro out the box, VLC must be the default
> >> > > choice for all videos and then Totem could be removed.
> >> >
> >> > Which desktop are you using? VLC is IMO terrible, but I don't see why
> >> > application defaults should be the same across desktops. Totem under
> >> > anything other than GNOME: who cares? Maybe for XFCE VLC is a better fit
> >> > or something.
> >>
> >> VLC works with any destop and any OS.
> >> Most of people coming from Windows already use VLC.
> >> LibreOffice, Firefox, Thunderbird and VLC are the most universal applications.
> >> They allow easy migrations from Microsoft.
> >> However, I prefer Konqueror and kmail in a KDE environment.
> >
> > You really like VLC :)
> >
> > If there is no KDE mediaplayer, then maybe file a bug. Totem in KDE is
> > not the best match.
> Neither is dragon player nor is totem a good thing in Gnome.
> Both application suffer from the same cause: as soon as we enter the
> video section we also become victims of the free/non-free/tainted
> issue. Result: totem as well as dragon player as provided by the free
> DVD are not able to play any kind of video, unless you install certain
> plugins. Now the direct issue is, how both applications deal with
> this. None of both is able to list all necessary plugins to play the
> wanted video - it's always the dance "a plugin is missing!" - "Which
> plugin?" then a forum helper tells you about one plugin, you install
> it, restart totem and - Bang! - it kills you with another "A plugin is
> missing!". Do that 3 times and maybe it works for this one video,
> coming back with the next video format. Same with dragon player.
> It's an upstream issue all right, but why is it not possible to
> include a function which lists ALL needed plugins, so you can install
> all of them? Or even better, a meta-package for those who want it all,
> which installs all available plugins for video play? I understand the
> reasons why they can not be installed automatically, but it would be a
> great step forward if all needed plugins can be installed in ONE step.
> Apart from that and not judging by look&feel, vlc really is the best
> when it comes to playing media.

I second that last comment!


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