[Mageia-dev] Problem with Totem packages?

Olav Vitters olav at vitters.nl
Thu Nov 22 09:35:01 CET 2012

On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 03:50:31PM +0100, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
> Neither is dragon player nor is totem a good thing in Gnome.

I actually use mplayer. Though solely because I can configure the amount
of seconds the left+right keys jumps forward/backward.

> Both application suffer from the same cause: as soon as we enter the
> video section we also become victims of the free/non-free/tainted
> issue. Result: totem as well as dragon player as provided by the free
> DVD are not able to play any kind of video, unless you install certain
> plugins. Now the direct issue is, how both applications deal with
> this. None of both is able to list all necessary plugins to play the
> wanted video - it's always the dance "a plugin is missing!" - "Which
> plugin?" then a forum helper tells you about one plugin, you install
> it, restart totem and - Bang! - it kills you with another "A plugin is
> missing!". Do that 3 times and maybe it works for this one video,
> coming back with the next video format. Same with dragon player.

Ah, that automatic install was always broken the few times I tried it. I
can ask upstream if it can install everything in one go.

I guess the big difference is:
 Totem: loads of gstreamer subpackages, some in tainted, some not
 VLC: 2 packages, one in tainted, one not

In which case the loads of subpackages is actually detrimental.

> It's an upstream issue all right, but why is it not possible to
> include a function which lists ALL needed plugins, so you can install
> all of them? Or even better, a meta-package for those who want it all,

I'll at least file a bug upstream.

> which installs all available plugins for video play? I understand the
> reasons why they can not be installed automatically, but it would be a
> great step forward if all needed plugins can be installed in ONE step.

Did the installation actually work for you? For me it was always
completely broken. Maybe that was just a broken packagekit, I haven't
tried in a while. Also, I installed loads of gstreamer 1.0 subpackages
and now it finally seems to work.

> Apart from that and not judging by look&feel, vlc really is the best
> when it comes to playing media.

In 3.8, Totem will be renamed to Videos and it'll be more integrated and
so on, so I want to focus on making it work. Plus figure out how to
customize the left/right arrow :)


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