[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board

Romain d'Alverny rdalverny at gmail.com
Tue Oct 5 10:38:13 CEST 2010

On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 02:29, Christopher Swift
<christopher.swift at linux.com> wrote:
> Ar Llu, 2010-10-04 am 12:35 +0100, ysgrifennodd Romain d'Alverny:
> Let's see other projects:
>> [...]
> For example #ubuntu-es isn't aimed at Spain but rather spanish speakers
> who use Ubuntu.

So again, no consistency (that I don't blame! it was just to know if
other project used a consistent scheme or not). According to above
Ubuntu wiki page, #ubuntu-es ought to be for the Spain country.

> It should also be noted that Ubuntu uses the ccTLD to set the name of
> the channel, so for example the channel for United Kingdom of Great
> Britain and Northern Ireland would indeed be #ubuntu-uk as it is.  The
> ccTLD for the UK is indeed .uk whereas Ukraine's ccTLD is .ua.

ccTLD is an option but again, it's using a location-based hint for
channels than a language-based (which is our main point from day one,
having location-based as exceptions).

> By extending the shortened name of -uk
> to -unitedkingdom you are making it less likely for people to find the
> channel.  -uk as a suffix is an already declared identifier for the UK
> in both domain names and open source IRC projects.


> Doesn't it make more sense to comply with the already existing standards
> of the Ubuntu and Fedora projects in regards to naming IRC channels?

Sure. Just that, it's not a strict, consistent rule regarding what
suffix to use for what purpose (be it language-based, location-based,
using language or country or ccTLD code); it's more like a "first come
first served" usage. Which I don't blame; it's something else, has the
great merit to simplify the setup.

We can go for that, it will be easier for everyone and stop the fuss,
provided some naming guidance rules:
 - use the suffix you want in the #mageia-{suffix} format (reserved
are -council, -board and other roles/teams related ones - ask in case
of doubt); you may actually use a totally different name for your
channel, won't prevent from being referenced;
 - first come, first served,
 - contact the IRC Mageia team (email/irc contact to define) to get it
listed with all Mageia-related channels (we ought to dedicate a page
for that on the wiki - that will be the main entry point anyway -
http://irc.mozilla.org/ looks like a good template).

So, no consistency planned for language/location for channels, let's
grow this. See http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=irc (will re-route
web site list to this one).

Here, #mageia-uk first come for United Kingdom, first served. For
Ukraine/ukrainian-speaking, -ukr or -ua or something else?


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