[Mageia-discuss] Mageia governance model draft

Romain d'Alverny rdalverny at gmail.com
Wed Oct 6 00:44:06 CEST 2010


On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 20:42, Oliver Burger <oliver.bgr at googlemail.com> wrote:
> "Romain d'Alverny" <rdalverny at gmail.com> schrieb am 2010-10-05
>> Apprentices have no voice yet and less rights on infrastructure,
>> provided they are being mentored. It's then up to Masters to decide if
>> an Apprentice makes it to Master or not. That's the reality behind the
>> mentoring process.
>
> In technical things I support two or more levels. There's much to learn for
> little community packagers as myself as there is in any field for the
> newcommers.
> As you describe it, there will be a political division in oldtimers with the
> power to vote and newcommers without it as well. And this I can't support.
> This sounds too much like a group of oldtimers hanging on to their power (even
> if it is not, and I really do believe in you trying to be as democratic as
> possible).
>
> Please don't initiate any kind of caste-system, to be as open as possible we
> do need a hirarchie as flat as possible.

I understand your fear and maybe words were not the right ones or it
was not clearly explained enough.

It's not a caste. It's encouraged that team do listen to everyone
involved with them, no matter who (and people may be involved in
several teams, indeed).

But in last resort, not only involved, but committed people get a
decisive voice. In teams, those committed people are those who were
recognized as such by their peers, through the mentoring process.

Which process is not an exclusive one (keep "bad" newcomers out), but
an inclusive one (welcome and train them before they get full hands on
the infrastructure). And that, again, wouldn't prevent non-'masters'
and 'non-apprentices' to provide/contribute something to the project,
only should it be reviewed and committed to the project by those team
members.

Does this answer somehow your point or not?

Cheers,

Romain


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