maarten.vanraes at gmail.com
Wed Oct 27 02:24:41 CEST 2010
Op woensdag 27 oktober 2010 01:23:37 schreef Frank Griffin:
> Maarten Vanraes wrote:
> > Op woensdag 27 oktober 2010 00:52:25 schreef Frank Griffin:
> >> Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
> >>> A solution could be to
> >>> 1. hide everything but the application packages (no matter if GUI or
> >>> CLI) 2. Insert such a list of options but give it an "expert" tag.
> >>> 3. The most important: make a search result visible also if the result
> >>> is something which would be hidden otherwise.
> >>> Example:
> >>> gstreamer-plugin-devel (don't care about the name) would be hidden in
> >>> standard view. But if the user writes "gstreamer" into the search
> >>> field it shouold be displayed in the search result view.
> >>> This way we could even keep the current order with "programs with gui"
> >>> as default. When the user no searches for 'mc' he will see it in the
> >>> list of search results, although 'mc' would not be displayed in
> >>> "Programs with GUI" view.
> >>> Does anybody understand what I wrote? Can't explain it in better words.
> >>> :)
> >> Excellent point. This mirrors something I suggested in another thread
> >> about rpmdrake and repositories. Show anything, if it's asked for,
> >> whether the source is "disabled" or not.
> > OTOH for new users, this overwelming choice of programs can be quite
> > overwelming.
> > I would propose to have a bydefault hiding of most of the programs (more
> > or less like now); but when once clicked off, to be remembered for next
> > time.
> Umm, you *did* read the bit about how the would existing "hidden"
> choices would be hidden by default ?
maybe not, there's a lot of email...
> > OR
> > when you search and find nothing; to get a display that the view is
> > switched to all; because it couldn't find your package
> Well, maybe a popup to the effect that if you change your view you might
> see what you wanted...
> > OR
> > have the results in two collapsable regions; where the first one contains
> > the "GUI" packages and the 2nd is collapsed by default (when the first
> > one is empty, it's collapsed and the 2nd one is open?
> I think the above popup would do.
> > I want this to be usefull for new users (while not being unusefull for
> > contributers like myself) my dad, for instance, absolutely loves that by
> > default the GUI packages are listed; because he never uses any console.
> Hmm. Does your dad really care, or are you just projecting onto him ?
> In other words, did he actually use rpmdrake back when "All" was the
> default and have a problem with it, or are you just assuming that he'd
> want GUI packages by default because of what you know he likes ?
i put him on Mandriva for a while now; and he's the type that doesn't know
much about computers, but likes to experiment a little, and install and try
some programs; since he never uses konsole; in the past he's installed quite
some programs that he couldn't find in the menu.
He did mention that he found it odd that there were less programs, (he
remembered there being more programs), but they were almost all locatable in
the menu, and i specifically remember him mentioning this to me.
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