[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva is switching to rpm5, and other news

Daniel Kreuter daniel.kreuter85 at googlemail.com
Fri Dec 3 10:32:19 CET 2010

On 12/03/2010 10:21 AM, andre999 wrote:
> Maarten Vanraes a écrit :
>> Op donderdag 02 december 2010 23:09:14 schreef Morgan Leijström:
>>> ADDING to what i just wrote:
>>>> A week or so old news but I saw it now...
>>>> <http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/2011.0_specs_proposal#Swith_to_rpm5>
>>>> <http://ostatic.com/blog/whats-coming-in-mandriva-2011>
>>>> <http://proyvind.net/wordpress/?p=71>
>>>> Citing proyvind from last link:
>>>> "...I think we will end up being able to be the awesome alternative in
>>>> the forked world, hoping for interest of other distros, actively
>>>> inviting their participation and offering to help merge,..."
>>> - i forgot to paste the best part:
>>> "I’m curious about what stance Mageia will take on this though, I’m
>>> certainly hoping they will adopt our work and allow for us to help them
>>> and contribute back and forth, if not I fear they’ll miss out on 
>>> several
>>> changes in just perl-URPM done recently during rpm5 rewrite, and 
>>> even more
>>> so those planned when rpm5 upgrade situtation settles.."
>>>> There are also other goodies in the middle link i hope we can 
>>>> coopreate
>>>> with them on.
>> well, i'm not adverse to cooperation, but RPM5 is in my opinion FAR too
>> unstable to be used for use on our first release.
>> I would say, let mandriva find the bugs first and let it give rpm5 a 
>> testrun
>> with their users; by the time we hit our second release, we will have 
>> a for
>> sure stable version of it.
> I've been following RPM5 (and the associated urpm4) on cooker for a 
> while now ...
> All 3 stories come from the person integrating rpm5 into Mandriva - he 
> was recently hired to do just that, with full support of management.
> To me it looks like rpm5 itself won't be the big problem - rather 
> changing the urpmi tools and adapting the build system to work with it.
> Not sure which way Mageia should go at first, but the newer versions 
> of their tools will be based on rpm5.
> It was interesting how cooker wasn't warned of the changes - suddenly 
> many developers were left unable to do any anything, until Per fixed 
> the bugs he created.  And then they learned about the planned switch.
> A perfect example of how NOT to do things :)
> It is good that Per is open to cooperation - his experiences will be a 
> big asset when we do follow suit - which I expect we will, sooner or 
> later.
> Maarten, have you taken a close look at it ?
At the start we should use RPM4 because it is proven to be stable.

Let's wait until RPM5 will be stable in Mandriva and after that we can 
move to RPM5

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