[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot

Anssi Hannula anssi at mageia.org
Sat Mar 10 21:52:24 CET 2012

07.03.2012 18:46, Juergen Harms kirjoitti:
> Upgrading to KDE 4.8.1 I realised that substantial time is lost
> downloading fat handbooks that I do not need.

Note that installation of handbooks is not new, they were simply
previously bundled with the main software packages and they have now
been splitted to separate packages.

I don't really agree that splitting is useful here, though, but I'm not
the KDE maintainer (or maybe I'm missing something)...

> After taking a closer look, I threw out 65 handbooks which I never asked
> for and which I do not need. Looking into the details of this flood (rpm
> -q with a filter for handbooks), the following facts become clear
> - the upgrade to kde 4.8.1 added the 4.8.1 handbooks without
> uninstalling the corresponding 4.8.0 versions

I don't see any duplicates. I do see many 4.8.0 handbooks but those are
simply not upgraded yet, there is no handbook that has both 4.8.0+4.8.1
version installed.

> - I am getting (lots of) handbooks for games, where the games themselves
> are not installed (I use a minimum install, nevertheless get some games
> which I remove with urpme kdegames4 - I suspect that this forgets to
> remove the corresponding handbooks).

Correct, only "--auto-orphans" will remove the leftover handbooks. This
is a bug, the handbooks should depend on the packages that actually
contain the software, but they do not.

> - I am getting (non-requested) kde-l10n-handbooks for french, german and
> en_GB, probably due to the fact that these languages are specified in
> the kde locale (languages tab) - to support spellchecking and
> hyphenation, that should not trigger the handbooks

This one I'm unsure of, as I don't see why kde-l10n-handbooks packages
are supposed to get installed in the first place... I'm probably missing

> This is (a) a multiplicator for the time spent downloading and
> upgrading, and (b) a substantial waste of storage.
> I used urpmi --auto-orphans (no negative effects) to get rid of the
> major part of this flood.

Anssi Hannula

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