[Mageia-sysadm] planning for sysadmin task
thierry.vignaud at gmail.com
Tue Nov 2 10:42:59 CET 2010
On 30 October 2010 10:55, Michael Scherer <misc at zarb.org> wrote:
>> At some extent, RPM dependencies would be a useful thing for setting
>> up the application but this mostly happens once (first install) and
>> can be easily hosted within the web application itself (and then
>> handle the error) - WordPress and Drupal do it for instance.
> It also prevent the removal of used dependencies.
> This can happen either when we are cleaning the server, or when we
> upgrade the server, or another application.
Indeed. Last example was ganglias which was broken on mdv bs b/c
it seems it was installed as a tarball instead as a package and got
broken when someone cleaned up some deps which rpm couldn't
know were needed by not packaged stuff
>> So we can discuss this further with other future webteam members but I
>> will seriously not manage a production environment that goes through
>> packaging for app updates.
> Well, if creating a package is just a single command ( as would be a
> upgrade to the production server ), I do not think it will be much of a
> problem. The only issue is to find someone skilled enough to create a
> shell script for that and I do not really think that it will be a big
> problem. We have a team of 8 admins and there is several volunteers
> eager to help, it would be quite weird to have no one able to do it in
What's more, MDV example shows that we should go for the simpler
usage, aka using packaged web apps that got security updates.
Just look at kenobi that hosts a web server and was running for years
an outdated distro
with no more updates, where nobody cared that web apps got broken, and the like.
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