[Mageia-sysadm] [RPM] cauldron core/release tagtool-0.12.3-2.mga1

[Michael Scherer]

Le jeudi 03 mars 2011 à 14:58 +0100, nicolas vigier a écrit :
> On Thu, 03 Mar 2011, Michael Scherer wrote:
> 
> > Le jeudi 03 mars 2011 à 11:07 +0100, Romain d'Alverny a écrit :
> > 
> > > Giving your name is not a loss of privacy. Giving an email address
> > > contact is not a loss of privacy. 
> > 
> > It depend to who you give it. And given
> > http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/privacy , I think it can be
> > qualified to be, yes. 
> > 
> > So while some people do not see problem with this, some others do, and
> > we should listen to their wishes. After a quick check, there is around
> > 10 people out of 250 in the directory with obviously fake names ( cause
> > I think no one is called "palm pre" ).
> > 
> > Some people may have very good reasons to not wanting to give their real
> > name or email address. I know several companies where the manager is ok
> > to send stuff upstream, but do not the name of the company to be
> > mentioned ( for example some divisions of France Telecom do this and
> > there is also some rumors about Trolltech doing the same before Nokia
> > era ). 
> 
> I think that's not a problem here. We're not checking ID of people who
> create accounts, so they can use the name they want to be called.

Not yet. What about the day someone will propose to use gpg and the web
of trust ( who is currently based on checking ID card ) for some stuff ?

>  They are also not forced to use their work email, they can create an email
> just for this.
> 
> So I don't know what the problem is exactly.

If the argument is "if people do not like giving informations, they can
simply not tell the truth", yes I see this as a problem, because we are
quite inconsistent.

On identity.m.o, we do ask :
- login
- email
- personal information

Login is obviously required.

For email, yes, we need to have one, that's a technical requirement on
this part, we cannot do much, except clearly telling to people what it
would be used for, if they can use a trash email or not, etc, etc.

Problem is asking for Last name/First name.

Identity.m.o  will be used almost everywhere, like for example on the
forum. 

Some people may find invasive to give Last name/First name especially
for posting on a forum when compared to all others ( I checked several
french forums, none requires giving anything except a email and a
login ). 

So either we care about having this information ( for example for legal
reasons ) and in this case, this must be clearly explained, and then we
may have to be more stringent depending on requirements. In this case,
we cannot say "you can enter what you want".

Or we do not care about the personal information, then it should also be
clear. And I see no clearer way to say "this is not required" that not
requiring it upon creation of the account.

IMHO, we should not adopt the sloppy practice of others websites of
saying so mandatory when this is not.

Telling to users to workaround this by giving incorrect information do
not seems like a very good way to show we care about people. 

-- 
Michael Scherer