[Mageia-dev] proposal regarding (packager) mentoring program coordinator

[Samuel Verschelde]

Le samedi 2 juillet 2011 03:02:24, andre999 a écrit :
> Samuel Verschelde a écrit :
> > Le samedi 2 juillet 2011 01:07:00, Samuel Verschelde a écrit :
> >> Le vendredi 1 juillet 2011 22:49:29, andre999 a écrit :
> >>> nicolas vigier a écrit :
> >>>> On Fri, 01 Jul 2011, andre999 wrote:
> [...]
> 
> >>>>> Would something like coord at pmentoring.mageia.org be Ok ?
> >>>> 
> >>>> No, foo at group.mageia.org with foo replaced by the group name.
> >>>> 
> >>>>> Presumably I would manage the group, which would include at least
> >>>>> magnus + Daniel. So who should I talk to about setting it up ?
> >>>>> Would I be able to add new persons myself, or would I have to request
> >>>>> it ?
> >>>> 
> >>>> What would be the use of this group and alias ?
> >>>> Shouldn't most discussions be public, so on a mailing list ?
> >>> 
> >>> This would be for potential packager apprentices or others to easily
> >>> contact all members the mentoring coordinator team.
> >>> So one of us can respond quickly, mostly to update our
> >>> packages_mentoring wiki page.  (Which will be ready in the next few
> >>> days.)
> >>> We could also use it to discuss among ourselves, which we now do by
> >>> private email. So it wouldn't be of general interest.  We wouldn't want
> >>> those outside our group responding to messages received, like in a
> >>> public mailing list.
> >>> (The group might include a few outside our team.)
> >>> (It could include mentors, but they will see useful info on our wiki
> >>> page.) A restricted-access mailing list should work.
> >> 
> >> I don't think there's a need for restricted access, and it would be
> >> opposite to the way we try to do everything in the open.
> >> 
> >> What you need is
> >> 1) a way to be contacted directly by those who need (apprentices)
> >> 2) a way to discuss within members of the team, but maybe other people
> >> too if some want to join the discussion
> >> 
> >> For 1), I think your @mageia.org address once you will get one is
> >> sufficient. It's only one means of communication among others (MLs,
> >> forums, wiki), so I don't think a group is necessarily needed for that.
> >> You can still forward requests you can't handle yourself.
> > 
> > That being said, I have nothing against the use of a group for that, but
> > only as a contact e-mail, not for discussion, or only for sensitive
> > discussion about specific persons.
> 
> That was exactly the purpose -- one contact point !
> (Which we can put in various documentation, etc.)
> That way if I'm not available -- on holidays, sick or whatever, I could
> alert the others to ensure a fast response.  And they could always help
> out if they wanted.
> And if someone takes my place, it would be a transparent changeover.
> 
> Sensitive discussion could happen with the group, but we could use direct
> contact as well.
> (We've been doing a bit in private setting up, but I see that as mostly
> temporary.  Other than sensitive issues, I would see it as mostly
> coordination among ourselves.)
> 
> Otherwise I would prefer everything in the open.
> (And I'm sure the others would agree.)
> 
> >> For 2), I don't know what is better :
> >> - use an existing mailing list
> >> - create a new one
> 
> mageia-dev seems good.  We can just try to limit it to a few threads at a
> time.
> 
> >> I think you must try to use direct e-mail among you only when there's a
> >> good reason to avoid public discussion. Saying that it's not of general
> >> interest is not a good enough reason, I think. Do you have other reasons
> >> for wanting a private mailing list ?
> 
> Agree totally.  No need.
> 
> So in summary, it seems that we should have a group for contacts.
> (Say pmentoring-coord at group.mageia.org ?)
> And no need to add a mailing list.

This e-mail seems complicated. What about packager-mentoring at group.mageia.org 
?

Samuel