[Mageia-dev] proposal regarding (packager) mentoring program coordinator

[Daniel Kreuter]

Am 07/03/2011 12:23 PM, schrieb Samuel Verschelde:
> Le samedi 2 juillet 2011 03:02:24, andre999 a écrit :
>> Samuel Verschelde a écrit :
>>> Le samedi 2 juillet 2011 01:07:00, Samuel Verschelde a écrit :
>>>> Le vendredi 1 juillet 2011 22:49:29, andre999 a écrit :
>>>>> nicolas vigier a écrit :
>>>>>> On Fri, 01 Jul 2011, andre999 wrote:
>> [...]
>>
>>>>>>> Would something like coord at pmentoring.mageia.org be Ok ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, foo at group.mageia.org with foo replaced by the group name.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Presumably I would manage the group, which would include at least
>>>>>>> magnus + Daniel. So who should I talk to about setting it up ?
>>>>>>> Would I be able to add new persons myself, or would I have to request
>>>>>>> it ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What would be the use of this group and alias ?
>>>>>> Shouldn't most discussions be public, so on a mailing list ?
>>>>>
>>>>> This would be for potential packager apprentices or others to easily
>>>>> contact all members the mentoring coordinator team.
>>>>> So one of us can respond quickly, mostly to update our
>>>>> packages_mentoring wiki page.  (Which will be ready in the next few
>>>>> days.)
>>>>> We could also use it to discuss among ourselves, which we now do by
>>>>> private email. So it wouldn't be of general interest.  We wouldn't want
>>>>> those outside our group responding to messages received, like in a
>>>>> public mailing list.
>>>>> (The group might include a few outside our team.)
>>>>> (It could include mentors, but they will see useful info on our wiki
>>>>> page.) A restricted-access mailing list should work.
>>>>
>>>> I don't think there's a need for restricted access, and it would be
>>>> opposite to the way we try to do everything in the open.
>>>>
>>>> What you need is
>>>> 1) a way to be contacted directly by those who need (apprentices)
>>>> 2) a way to discuss within members of the team, but maybe other people
>>>> too if some want to join the discussion
>>>>
>>>> For 1), I think your @mageia.org address once you will get one is
>>>> sufficient. It's only one means of communication among others (MLs,
>>>> forums, wiki), so I don't think a group is necessarily needed for that.
>>>> You can still forward requests you can't handle yourself.
>>>
>>> That being said, I have nothing against the use of a group for that, but
>>> only as a contact e-mail, not for discussion, or only for sensitive
>>> discussion about specific persons.
>>
>> That was exactly the purpose -- one contact point !
>> (Which we can put in various documentation, etc.)
>> That way if I'm not available -- on holidays, sick or whatever, I could
>> alert the others to ensure a fast response.  And they could always help
>> out if they wanted.
>> And if someone takes my place, it would be a transparent changeover.
>>
>> Sensitive discussion could happen with the group, but we could use direct
>> contact as well.
>> (We've been doing a bit in private setting up, but I see that as mostly
>> temporary.  Other than sensitive issues, I would see it as mostly
>> coordination among ourselves.)
>>
>> Otherwise I would prefer everything in the open.
>> (And I'm sure the others would agree.)
>>
>>>> For 2), I don't know what is better :
>>>> - use an existing mailing list
>>>> - create a new one
>>
>> mageia-dev seems good.  We can just try to limit it to a few threads at a
>> time.
>>
>>>> I think you must try to use direct e-mail among you only when there's a
>>>> good reason to avoid public discussion. Saying that it's not of general
>>>> interest is not a good enough reason, I think. Do you have other reasons
>>>> for wanting a private mailing list ?
>>
>> Agree totally.  No need.
>>
>> So in summary, it seems that we should have a group for contacts.
>> (Say pmentoring-coord at group.mageia.org ?)
>> And no need to add a mailing list.
>
> This e-mail seems complicated. What about packager-mentoring at group.mageia.org
> ?
>
> Samuel
Sounds better.