[Mageia-dev] Teamviewer and X86_64 build . . .

Thomas Backlund tmb at mageia.org
Tue Nov 29 16:09:41 CET 2011

Thorsten van Lil skrev 29.11.2011 15:44:
> Am 29.11.2011 14:17, schrieb Thomas Backlund:
>> Robert Fox skrev 29.11.2011 13:24:
>>> On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 12:20 +0100, nicolas vigier wrote:
>>>> You are free to try to help teamviewer fix their package to make it work
>>>> on Mageia, you can already do it now, there's no need to have a voting
>>>> system to consider it.
>>> Sorry Nicolas - I would if I knew how, but unfortunately I am not a
>>> packager nor am I a developer with intimate knowledge of Mageia - I am
>>> simply a power user who enjoys testing the latest (cauldron) and giving
>>> feedback.
>> Ah... and there it is...
>> This is how most threads like this ends up...
>> Many users seems to forget this is a community driven distribution,
>> so if you want something no-one of the current maintainers care
>> about, you need to do the work, and stop expecting others to do
>> it for you (unless you pay them)...
> I don't think that he is "expecting others to do it" for him.

Well, it wasn't directed only to Robert, hence the "Many users..."

> As Robert Fox said:
> "All I am asking is that Mageia recognise the need for the end
> users to co-exist with their Mac / Winblows counterparts, and that
> certain software is unavoidable.  Any efforts made to help get such
> software to work properly with our distribution would be considered
> positive."

We already do, as pointed out by Romain earlier in this thread.
But it does not mean we have to bend over backvards to do it since
we are first and foremost promoting open source.

> So, if I understood him right, a how-to would be enough for him.
> Three possible solutions came to my mind, to solve this issue:
> 1. We write a documentation for, which has to be translated in each
> language.
> 2. We provide a get-teamviewer package (as for skype). I guess there
> would be a script in it, that does the needed steps? However, a packager
> would be needed for it, who build and maintain it.
> 3. We take care, that the provided Mandriva package on the Teamviewer
> website works properly in Mageia. Due to my limited knowledge I can't
> estimate the effort for that possible solution.

Well... "We" is still the above mentioned community, so someone still 
has to do the work...

And in Roberts case he also stated he knows how to look things up on the 
net and figure things out.. so the next logical step then would
be to document the findings, stick it on wiki, and voila...

a member of the community ("We") did the work, and the whole community
can benefit from it. and "We" didn't even need to be a packager.

and maintaining pages on the wiki is also valuable work for the 
community. so... many ways to help...


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