[Mageia-dev] HALectomy on mageia ?

[Maarten Vanraes]

Op donderdag 17 maart 2011 04:32:17 schreef Tux99:
> Quote: Ahmad Samir wrote on Thu, 17 March 2011 03:28
> 
> > On 17 March 2011 04:08, Tux99 <tux99-mga at uridium.org> wrote:
> > > You mean simply drop Gnome, Gimp, Gphoto, XFburn, Nut, etc. and
> > > probably
> > > not being able to build some other apps that aren't in the Mageia
> > > repos
> > > yet and might require HAL?
> > 
> > First of all, where did mikala say anything about "dropping right
> > now"?
> 
> Mikala? Why do you mention him?

Mikala is John Balcaen (original poster)

> > All the apps you picked (from the Fedora page?) can probably work
> > without hal, (e.g. I don't have haldaemon running for about 4-5 months
> > now, and gimp works OK).
> 
> I didn't pick anything, I simply listed the apps that appear as
> dependencies in Balcaen John's first post of this thread and asked if he
> meant dropping those.
> See here if you missed the earlier emails:
> http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/index.php?t=msg&th=2540

afaik he meant to drop the hal option from compiling, ie: compile without hal 
support

> > The point is, other major distros have already gone through the
> > halsectomy phase, which means we have very rich resources to draw on.
> 
> True, but again IMHO this is a major structural change, which AFAIK isn't
> supposed to happen until after Mageia 1 has been released.

I kind of agree with you, but i guess this is why it's proposed here. To see 
who supports it and who doesn't.

personally, if this is as painless as mikala and ahmad think it is, i would 
feel it would be ok, if it was proposed a month ago. Now, i don't know, afaik 
there haven't been alot of distros yet released without hal atm. So even 
though alot of people are behind this, for mageia 1, we do have older versions 
of programs.

I think they are wanting to see if someone can prove them that app X would be 
missing functionality if hal support was removed from now.

but imho, it needs to be tested by non-dev users before something can be 
proclaimed.

Also, i guess it means they don't want to keep supporting it. but imho, mageia 
release 1 isn't so far off anymore and there is still alot of work to be done 
for it. I do give my blessing to drop hal completely after release 1, though.