[Mageia-dev] regarding tainted progress

Maarten Vanraes maarten.vanraes at gmail.com
Sun May 29 16:58:53 CEST 2011


Op zondag 29 mei 2011 14:07:59 schreef Michael Scherer:
> Le dimanche 29 mai 2011 à 12:50 +0200, Maarten Vanraes a écrit :
> > Op zondag 29 mei 2011 12:05:26 schreef Michael Scherer:
> > > Le dimanche 29 mai 2011 à 11:52 +0200, Maarten Vanraes a écrit :
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > I've spoken with spturtle about the tainted packages rebuild of
> > > > existing packages (ffmpeg, mplayer,...)
> > > > 
> > > > He mentions he did local builds of those, and is waiting on a BS
> > > > change?
> > > 
> > > Everything is on the bug report
> > > https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=338 ( that you likely could not
> > > miss )
> > 
> > I suppose i should've put the link in my email...
> > 
> > > Personally, I think this can be fixed after with updates ( ie push
> > > updated rpms with support for specific codecs after the release is out
> > > ) so this should not be release critical.
> > 
> > I kind of disagree with you here on 2 points:
> >  - I estimate(wild guess) that if there is even 4hours between release
> >  and
> > 
> > these packages appearing, that you're already gonna have at least one
> > person complaining about it
> 
> And so ? I think that I clearly articulated my point about complain in
> the past, something about "patch or you do not exist", some ruthless
> motto geared toward efficiency.

i guess i'm not that ruthless

> More precisely, how many people would complain if the release do not
> appear in time, after having worked so hard to meet the deadline ?

you have a point there, also people always complain

> >  - If you say, after release is fine; then it'll likely take more than a
> >  week
> > 
> > after release to have those packages on the mirrors, because at that
> > point people will just want to "fix" the BS the correct way...
> 
> Technically, even before, it should be the right way. We had enough
> issues with stuff "that will be fixed later" on Mandriva side that I
> think we learned the lesson, like "we will clean the buildsystem later"
> 
> ( so it was running forked version of youri, with no spec on how it
> work, with script auto correcting mirrors silently, etc )

There's no way i can not agree with you on this.

Except, i thought this was decided...

In any case, spturtle seems to have everything ready and is waiting for 
"something" or perhaps some way to put it there?

I only sent this email as reminder because spturtle asked me to do so...


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