[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release task-obsolete-3-21.mga3

[andre999]

Guillaume Rousse a écrit :
> Le 01/08/2012 09:31, Guillaume Rousse a écrit :
>> Le 01/08/2012 08:46, Thierry Vignaud a écrit :
>>> On 1 August 2012 05:29, fwang <buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org> wrote:
>>>> fwang <fwang> 3-21.mga3:
>>>> + Revision: 277136
>>>> - obsolete db5.2 in favour of db5.3
>>>
>>> # urpmi --auto-select --keep -vv --debug
>>> (...)
>>> installed libreoffice-core-3.6.0.1-1.mga3.x86_64 is conflicting
>>> because of unsatisfied libdb-5.2.so()(64bit)
>>> unselecting task-obsolete-3-21.mga3.noarch
>>> A requested package cannot be installed:
>>> task-obsolete-3-21.mga3.noarch (in order to keep
>>> libreoffice-core-3.6.0.1-1.mga3.x86_64)
>>> Continue installation anyway? (Y/n)
>> Whoever had the brilliant idea of forcing package uninstallation just
>> because "they are not supported anymore" deserve a good spanking...
>> Especially when applied to libraries, whereas shipping them in specific
>> versioned subpackage 'libfication' was meant precisely to avoid this 
>> issue.
>
> Morevoer, it's quite ridiculous to focus on removing obsoleted package 
> from end users machines, without first cleaning our own 
> infrastructure: db5.2 is still present in the subversion repository, 
> for instance...
>
> So, removing a package from the distribution should imply:
> 1) removing it from the subversion repository
> 2) removing it from the master package tree (adding obsoletes tag in 
> any package just for this is overkill)
> 3) eventually removing it from end user machines, provided this last 
> step bring some added value (which is still unproven)
>
+1
This last point reminds me of the obsoletes of openoffice put in the 
libreoffice spec, when there was no real conflicts and there were some 
differences.  So a regression in libreoffice required me to install 
upstream libreoffice so I could install openoffice alongside, to work 
around the regressions when I needed to.
So definitely no added value.
These obsoletes are still there.

-- 
André