[Mageia-dev] GNOME plans

Wolfgang Bornath molch.b at googlemail.com
Mon Jun 4 20:17:39 CEST 2012

2012/6/4 Olav Vitters <olav at vitters.nl>:
> On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 05:51:11PM +0200, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:

Leaving out the crap about "change your wording" and whatever.

> - Maybe to clarify my point: When using GNOME, there should not be any
>  need to resort to a distro specific configuration tool. E.g. xorg
>  should be setup automatically, not require any distro assistance. It
>  is long term and difficult.

Ok, no problem. But what if a user decides NOT to use Gnome (what an
idea!)? What should users use for configuration?

> You clearly care about MCC, cool. But respect other people's opinion.

Actually I like MCC but this is not the point, it could be any similar
tool. I do respect other's opinions as long as these others respect
the necessity of such a tool for system-wide settings independent from

> To make clear: I think it is stupid that various distributions have
> their own specific configuration tools. That should be shared across
> distributions.

Od course I agree to that, never said anything against it. But I also
think it is stupid to do system settings inside a configuration tool
of a desktop environment. Please think again what that means:

If there is no MCC (or any other central setting tool for the Linux system):
 - a Gnome user will use gnome-settings
 - a kde user will use kde-settings
 - a lxde user will use.... and so on ad infinitum.

And what if he has Gnome and KDE, having both their own system
settings (hardware, msec, network settings, software management,
BTW: We are seeing this already in the forums: people see a setting in
MCC and then the same in KDE/Gnome. They will obviously use the first
they see - if that differs to the setting in MCC confusion is on the

> Secondly, I think you should be able to do everything from within System
> Settings.

Yes, as long as it is not a setting tool for the settings of a
desktop-environment which is not available when you do not use that

BTW: Pls, calm down a bit, I am quite amazed how emotional you react
to this. It's software, not human rights.


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