[Mageia-dev] Remove upgrade functionnality in installer

[andre999]

Anne nicolas a écrit :
> 2012/6/24 David Walser<luigiwalser at yahoo.com>:
>    
>> Johnny A. Solbu wrote:
>>      
>>> On Saturday 23 June 2012 15:21, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
>>>        
>>>> The issue with the upgrade function at
>>>> the end of the installer is: "it is not working properly even if a
>>>> functioning network is available".
>>>>          
>>> In all the years I have been running Mandrake, Mandriva and now Mageia, the upgrade packages function in the installer has not worked once
>>>        
>> for me, that I can remember. So I always skip it.
>>      
>>> I believe many others do the same.
>>>        
>> Is that what the "feature request" is talking about?  If so, it's totally not clear.  It sounded to me like it was talking about the ability
>> for the installer to upgrade an existing system.  If it's just talking about that "install updates" thing at the end of the installation,
>> that's never worked for me either in the few times I've tried it.  It's also pretty unnecessary for me since I usually install from HDD or net,
>> which uses updates in the first place.
>>      
> Indeed  I'm not speaking about updating packages at the end of the
> installation but using a DVD to upgrade an already installed system
>    

But using a DVD to upgrade an already installed system is a good way to 
get around the fact that many packages, including nonfree firmware, are 
missing from the DVD.
If one does a clean install, one has to try to find a lot of missing 
packages, because they are no longer installed.  This impacts 
considerably the usability of the system.  (Considering what the user 
had installed.)
All one has to do after the upgrade install, is reboot and do a normal 
upgrade with rpmdrake (selecting "all updates" and "all packages"), and 
almost everything works well.
(For me upgrade to mga1 worked perfectly.  The last 2 upgrades with mdv 
had some problems, due to other factors.  A clean install has always 
caused me a lot of problems.)
With a clean install, it can be problematic to find all the missing 
packages, as well as missing firmware.

Note that I don't use mgaapplet after an upgrade install, since it 
doesn't give me all the information I want, to help me decide if I 
should drop some packages that were installed.
It may be that using mgaapplet after an upgrade install is the weak link 
in the chain.
And certainly urpmi is not a convenient tool at this point.  (Although I 
use it a lot at other times.)

Note also that with upgrade install, even firmware that is missing from 
the release (and not only the DVD) remains installed.  So there are 
cases where an upgrade install necessarily produces a better functioning 
system.

So in sum, in my view, removing upgrade install for DVDs would be an 
important regression.
But maybe we should suggest rebooting and using rpmdrake after such an 
install.

Regards :)

-- 
André