[Mageia-dev] Mageia-dev Digest, Vol 27, Issue 85

[Joseph Wang]

On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 9:51 PM, <mageia-dev-request at mageia.org> wrote:

> Hmm, have you missed that there will be no Cinnamon in Mageia repos?
> Part of packagers "job" is to keep eye on the dev ml.
>

Maybe I'll stay on for another day or so.  I've been using Mageia/Mandriva
for years,
and so I'll keep it on my disk for another two or three days.

Let me tell you about my day.  I go to work, I work for 12 hours a day.  I
come
home.  On a good day, I have maybe an hour or two to work on my hobby.
I might have a few hours to work on weekends.  But I have a *job* and
*kids*.

I find coding relaxing.  I find packaging relaxing and educational.  I've
actually
learned a lot about rpm.  I've also learned a lot about how cinnamon works.

But I have a *job*.  Here I'm a volunteer.  I got cinnamon working for my
own
amusement.  if I have to spend lots of time keeping track of e-mail
discussions,
then I'm just not going to have the time to do anything "real."  I find
coding *fun*.
I find office politics and taking orders *not fun*.

And I've been quiet, because I'm a newbie.  I keep my mouth shut, and watch
what's going on before I say anything.  If I feel like I fit in, I stay.
If not, I don't.

I have a dozen or so packages in the queue.  I've been working with the
Fedora
to get a python to rpm conversion script working, and I have about a dozen
python packages that are ready to be uploaded.  I'm interested in creating
a first
rate platform for astronomy.  I've got ds9 working.  I've packaged glamor,
and I've
gotten an open source ati driver working for Radeonsi.  I want to start
packaging heavy duty astrophysics code on Mageia.

If you find this useful.  Then take it.  If not, I'll find somewhere else.
Say thank you
and smile at me, and I'm a sucker, and I'll keep doing it.

But remember I have a *job*.  If this starts feeling like *work* then
there's no
reason for me to be here.  I'll put up with some politics if it means
getting something
useful done in the end, and I'll spend a lot of time if I learn something,
but my
time is precious, and I could have been spending the last hour trying to
get some
more themes packaged rather than writing useless e-mail (and I hate e-mail,
I get enough of this non-sense at work).

I've been using Mageia/Mandriva for years, so I'll wait a few days before
wiping
my disk to see how people react.  I'll keep packaging and debugging stuff.
I
*will* work on cinnamon, because I think it's a cool desktop.  There is one
major
bug, that I'd like to help fix.  You can't tell me to stop working on
cinnamon.

You can keep cinnamon out of the distribution, but that's up to you.....

Also, in case someone wants to have a discussion rather than *ordering* me
to do something....

I really don't think that cinnamon is ready for Mageia 3.  There are some
pretty
major bugs in it, and it's not ready for prime time.  It would be useful to
keep it
in the testing section, and then target it for Mageia 4.  I do think it
would be a
good idea to at least start looking at alternatives to Gnome 3 since they
are
self-destructing, and I've been *extremely* impressed by cinnamon (minus two
annoying bugs which I'm trying to fix).
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