[Mageia-dev] [RFC] rsyslog vs journalctl

[David Walser]

--- On Thu, 2/7/13, Colin Guthrie <mageia at colin.guthr.ie> wrote:
> From: Colin Guthrie <mageia at colin.guthr.ie>
> Subject: Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] rsyslog vs journalctl
> To: "Mageia development mailing-list" <mageia-dev at mageia.org>
> Cc: "David Walser" <luigiwalser at yahoo.com>
> Date: Thursday, February 7, 2013, 4:56 AM
> 'Twas brillig, and David Walser at
> 06/02/13 18:28 did gyre and gimble:
> > Colin Guthrie <mageia at ...> writes:
> >> Oh, for the avoidance of doubt, I don't think there
> is any argument that
> >> would suggest the removal from the repositories or
> obsoletion of rsyslog
> >> or syslog-ng etc.
> > 
> > I agree, and that's consistent with what you've said in
> the past.  I thought
> > it was odd that the idea of obsoleting them came up
> yesterday in the packager
> > meeting, but it did.  The main reason was wanting
> to know if rsyslog should
> > still be on the DVD, in case of users using it to
> upgrade from Mageia 2.
> > 
> > It may be the case that not upgrading that particular
> package during the DVD
> > upgrade won't *break* anything and it can just be
> upgraded after the system
> > is booted and urpmi sources are added, in which case it
> doesn't *need* to be
> > on the DVD.  Otherwise, we should make sure it's
> on there.
> 
> What I guess we could to to avoid putting rsyslog on the
> physical media
> would be to put a versioned conflicts in the main systemd
> package with
> rsyslog and syslog-ng. Thus the old packages should be
> removed when
> upgrading (AIUI).

I don't agree with unexpectedly forcibly removing it from people's systems.

Do we even know if it hurts anything to leave the mga2 package installed for a few minutes?