[Mageia-discuss] First impressions

Maarten Vanraes maarten.vanraes at gmail.com
Tue Feb 15 23:12:25 CET 2011


Op dinsdag 15 februari 2011 22:01:21 schreef Thomas Backlund:
> Maarten Vanraes skrev 15.2.2011 22:34:
> > These are my own very conchise first impressions:
> > 
> > 
> > - no btrfs? (except in advanced setup)
> 
> I think we can enable support for btrfs in standard setup
> (but I dont think we should go for it as default yet...)

exactly, i looked at the list, and it lists ext3, ext4, xfs, jfs, etc... btrfs 
could easily be there amongst those.

I would indeed wait to set it by default when it has been more used and proven 
as stable. (perhaps one or two releases further)

> > - core media
> > This screen was never clear to me, and i never selected it, however,
> > perhaps for iso installation, a mirror repository should be
> > automatically there and selected by default? so that if there's updates,
> > they can already be used during installation... ? WDYT?
> 
> Well, that page is to give the user the choice to add a mirror repo if
> she/she wants it, but not forcing it...

i'm just thinking if we list some form of updates there by default, it could 
mean faster install (no updates later on), and if something wasn't functional, 
at release time, it could be "pushed" from repositories, so that it would work 
well.

at the same time, i think we should try to minimize the amount of packages 
needed to have working network, (or use the stuff that's in the stage tarballs 
to get network, instead of first installing part of it)

> > - i selected HTTP and it installed a few packages so i could enable
> > networking (2min)
> > - the partition step kept being highlighted, even when i was configuring
> > network...
> > - http://distrib-
> > coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/cauldron/x86_64 didn't
> > seem to work when configuring additional media
> 
> It might have been overloaded, so no free download slots...

perhaps, i'm not sure

> > - KDE choice (very funny artwork :-D )
> > - installing (5min)
> > - when configuring, wizard said my password was trivial to guess, even
> > though i had letter and digits in it with total length 8
> 
> A good pasword should contain a mix of atleast 3 of theese:
> - lower-case characters
> - upper-case characters
> - numbers
> - special characters
> 
> and preferably >=10 characters

so, it's either trivial or good? no inbetweens?

> > - perhaps the iso media should be removed after installation and when
> > updated media are installed? it keeps requesting for the DVD...
> 
> That would mean getting network traffic, even if you have it on the iso.
> And the user can always change it in the media manager

how often do you have people installing ISO, then removing iso, to boot from 
disk; only to find out that you have to put it in again to install a few 
applications. granted the first reboot doesn't boot from the iso, but the 
subsequent boots do use the iso...

otoh, indeed it could mean increased network traffic...

> > - vim didn't show a color scheme for /etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg .
> > - trying to update with urpmi --auto-select showed me that i had an
> > orphaned package ? kernel-desktop-devel ? odd...
> 
> urpmi orphans detection isn't perfect yet...

i don't think this is the problem, tbh, i'm wondering why it was even 
installed? (unless it was for dkms stuff?)

> > logs vbox3 guest: (vbox3 is still in 2010.2, so perhaps we should have
> > vbox3 compatibility?)
> 
> vbox 4 is in 2010.2 backports

true, but would you dare to upgrade an existing vbox3 version to vbox4? i have 
several machines that are "saved"...

> --
> Thomas


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