[Mageia-dev] Proposal for bugzilla

andre999 andr55 at laposte.net
Wed Dec 22 22:58:44 CET 2010

Maarten Vanraes a écrit :
> Op woensdag 22 december 2010 20:38:06 schreef Ahmad Samir:
>> On 22 December 2010 21:30, Renaud MICHEL<r.h.michel+mageia at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>> On mercredi 22 décembre 2010 at 18:46, Ahmad Samir wrote :
>>>>> Sorry for not beeing clear.
>>>>> What I propose is not for the case 'a bug originates from more than
>>>>> one package';
>>>>> but for the case 'a bug manifests itself in than one package'.

If we agree that a bug can originate in more than one package, a 
multiline (multi-rpm) field could be useful.

>>>> A bug that manifests in more than one package must originate from
>>>> 'some package', that 'some package' is the only one that should be in
>>>> the 'RPM Package' field; i.e that's the package that's going to need
>>>> fixing.
>>> I agree, but that doesn't mean the user is able to identify the
>>> problematic package, even if he has good knowledge of the way packages
>>> work.
>>> Let's say for example that there is a problem with libxy, it is compiled
>>> with a bad combination of optimizations that make some of its functions
>>> behave randomly.
>>> appA appB and appC use libxy, but appC only use simple functions that are
>>> not affected by the optimization problem, so only appA and appB behave
>>> badly.
>>> Even if the user know about packages dependencies, as appC work fine he
>>> may not come to the conclusion that libxy is causing the problem.
>>> But he may still consider the problems with appA and appB to be related
>>> because they started at the same time (the latest update that included
>>> libxy).
>>> So if he can fill a single bug report for both appA and appB, that is a
>>> good hint to the developer that he should investigate in the
>>> dependencies those apps have in common.
>>> So if you accept only one package per bug report, it may be harder to
>>> find the actual cause, as those two apps may be maintained by different
>>> people, each investigating the problem for his own app.

Good point.

>>> --
>>> Renaud Michel
>> Sure, but there's strace and gdb crash backtraces, that's what devs
>> use to find where a crash/bug happens, whether it's in their
>> package/code or somewhere else.
>> To be more clear it's "one bug per report", that bug originates from a
>> package, that's what gets to be put in the 'RPM Package' field; it's
>> not unheard of that the 'RPM Package' field is changed through out the
>> life cycle of a bug report.
> yes, but suppose there's a firefox issue and it appears to be a problem with a
> system library, after it gets changed, people will never find this problem
> again; since they look for firefox...

We could retain a reference to a package that manifests but doesn't 
actually contain a bug by putting parentheses around its name.

- André

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